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good afternoon, i'm geeta guru—murthy and welcome to this bbc local election special. in the last hour, the breaking news — labour are saying their candidate for the mayor of london, sadiq khan, is on course to win a record third term at the mayor of london. i should had a third constituency to declare and it showed a 5% swing in a constituency where the conservatives were ahead in 2021 but it has now been won by city down. let's get some more on those numbers now. nick eardley is watching the data for us. what we know so far and how significant is it that labour seem to be calling it, given the uncertainty we saw in the last 2a
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hours? uncertainty we saw in the last 24 hours? ., , ,., uncertainty we saw in the last 24 hours? ,, . ., ., hours? there was some speculation that race would _ hours? there was some speculation that race would be _ hours? there was some speculation that race would be tighter _ hours? there was some speculation that race would be tighter than - that race would be tighter than people thought but the figures were getting so far suggest that's not the case. labour this lunchtime confidently saying they think they have won the london mayoralty again, sadiq khan will get that historic third term as mayor of london. i didn't have a result to go to now in south—west london. the didn't have a result to go to now in south-west london.— didn't have a result to go to now in south-west london. the local council and ma or south-west london. the local council and mayor of— south-west london. the local council and mayor of london _ south-west london. the local council and mayor of london election. - south-west london. the local council and mayor of london election. i - south-west london. the local council and mayor of london election. i givel and mayor of london election. i give public— and mayor of london election. i give public notice of the number of votes cast were _ public notice of the number of votes cast were each candidate for the mayor— cast were each candidate for the mayor of— cast were each candidate for the mayor of london contest, making the local totals _ mayor of london contest, making the local totals available in the south—west. femy amin, and welfare party. _ south—west. femy amin, and welfare party. 2640 — south—west. femy amin, and welfare party, 2640. —— animal welfare party — party, 2640. —— animal welfare party. count binface, 2304. rob
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blackie. — party. count binface, 2304. rob blackie, 20 —— party. count binface, 2304. rob blackie, 20 -- 21,579. party. count binface, 2304. rob blackie, 20 —— 21,579. natalie campbell, _ blackie, 20 —— 21,579. natalie campbell, independent, 3202. howard cox, reform uk, 6634. amy gallacher, social_ cox, reform uk, 6634. amy gallacher, social democratic party, 2771. zoe garbett. _ social democratic party, 2771. zoe garbett, green party, 10,132. tarun ghulati, — garbett, green party, 10,132. tarun ghulati, independent, 2436. susan hall, _ ghulati, independent, 2436. susan hall, conservative party, 68,856. sadiq _ hall, conservative party, 68,856. sadiq khan, labour party, 77,011.
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andreas_ sadiq khan, labour party, 77,011. andreas michli, independent, 1669. brian rose, 528. nick scanlon, britain's — brian rose, 528. nick scanlon, britain's first, 1600. the number of ballot _ britain's first, 1600. the number of ballot papers rejected was as followed. wanting an official mark, one. followed. wanting an official mark, one~ but _ followed. wanting an official mark, one~ but if — followed. wanting an official mark, one. but if more than one candidate, 213. one. but if more than one candidate, 215 writing _ one. but if more than one candidate, 213. writing remarks by which the voter_ 213. writing remarks by which the voter could — 213. writing remarks by which the voter could be identified, three. unmarked — voter could be identified, three. unmarked or void for uncertainty, 530~ _ unmarked or void for uncertainty, 530~ the — unmarked or void for uncertainty, 530. the total number of rejected ballot _ 530. the total number of rejected ballot papers were therefore 747. totat— ballot papers were therefore 747. total number of ballot papers counted — total number of ballot papers counted were 206,109. the electorate for the _ counted were 206,109. the electorate for the south—west constituency is
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455.38t _ for the south—west constituency is 455,381. therefore the turnout is 45~26%~ — 455,381. therefore the turnout is 45.26%. thank you very much. studio: — 45.26%. thank you very much. studio: so _ 45.26%. thank you very much. studio: so that it's south—west london. we are getting various parts of london giving us numbers there, and eyes i have written down, sadiq khan approximately 77,000 votes and the tories got 68,000. so the conservatives showing pretty well there, but what does that do to the overall numbers we got so far, nick? that's a really significant one because the conservatives won that district last time and as you can see, sadiq khan now has a fairly comfortable lead, 8000 votes more than susan hall. here's what it means in terms of how the vote has changed in the south—west london area. conservatives down three, labour up three, and here is the all—important swing, what we've been looking at across the morning. it is slightly less in the south west than
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it has been in other parts of london, this is an outer london borough so perhaps one of those areas you might have seen a bit more frustration over ulez, for example. it follows a pattern of votes of the swing going from the conservatives to labour and i swing going from the conservatives to labourand i can swing going from the conservatives to labour and i can show you now where that leaves the scores on the doors in london. sadiq khan is quite significantly ahead, probably we would have expected that given the labour friendly constituencies have already come in, but this is the bit that really matters, the swing from the conservatives to labour is just under 5%, 4.9% there, that's why labour are saying they are now confident that sadiq khan is going to win the london mayor race and get that third term, and there's not evidence at the moment of anything else happening. fine evidence at the moment of anything else happening-— else happening. one result is to brina ou else happening. one result is to bring you the — else happening. one result is to bring you the police _ else happening. one result is to bring you the police and - else happening. one result is to bring you the police and crime | bring you the police and crime commissioners, there are about ten
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today, thames valley has been re—elected, the conservative matthew barber, so that's the police and crime commissioner for the thames valley, that was just coming in while you were talking. overall, can you explain why we saw a flutter of quite deep uncertainty over the london mayoral count? obviously we don't have final numbers yet, we stress that. don't have final numbers yet, we stress that-— don't have final numbers yet, we stress that. ., , ., stress that. there was some turnout fi . ures stress that. there was some turnout figures published _ stress that. there was some turnout figures published yesterday - stress that. there was some turnout figures published yesterday which i figures published yesterday which suggested that in two london boroughs where the conservatives typically do better, turnout was up, and in some inner boroughs, where labour do not as well, turnout was down, given its first—past—the—post race, the speculation led to some people saying actually, maybe this is all to play for. i think there were some people suggesting that privately as well. i have to say, the main parties were both playing that sort of speculation down and it
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seems that they were right because when you look at that figure, it does seem very much like sadiq khan is going to come win. there is also a question based on what happens over the next few hours, if labour could actually be in a better place in london, and when it comes to the london assembly, the votes for which are coming in quickly now as well. maybe, just maybe labour could push to get a majority there. we will have to see what happens over the next few hours. but that fits in with the picture we've seen in local elections as well. labour up, the conservatives down, really bad night, really bad day on thursday i should say, for the conservatives. in the big question today now is whether that west midlands race and give them something to hold onto. for people who are just tuning in and seeing a barrage of numbers and graphs, can you explain the london figures that are coming in, and the roles that go with these big mayoral
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jobs? let roles that go with these big mayoral “obs? ., ,., . ,, roles that go with these big mayoral “obs? ., . ,, ., ., ., jobs? let me go back to the london fiuures, jobs? let me go back to the london figures, actually, _ jobs? let me go back to the london figures, actually, which _ jobs? let me go back to the london figures, actually, which show - jobs? let me go back to the london figures, actually, which show where sadiq khan is compared to susan hall. sadiq khan 427, susan hall 233, the swing is very much in sadiq khan in's favour. a decent amount of power over things like transport and housing in london, it's a pretty prominent position for so he has usedit prominent position for so he has used it to make some big political polls as well. one of the big things we have been talking about is the war in gaza. there is some evidence that labour's position on gaza has done it damage in areas with a high muslim population. i don't have enough to say this definitively or to give any specific figures but it will be interesting to see if that happens in london, given that city are most critical of the war in gaza, it was one of the first labour politicians to back a ceasefire. he is somebody who has taken a slightly more vertical position of israel's
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actions in gaza, but may have done something to help his vote. we don't have enough evidence to suggest that just yet, but as i say, i'm going to keep showing you this one because this is the one that really matters in the areas we've brought insofar, labour and a really good place, the swings from conservative to labour. if susan hall is going to beat sadiq khan it would have to be going in the opposite direction, so the moment city khan looks safe. mick moment city khan looks safe. nick eardle , moment city khan looks safe. nick eardley. for _ moment city khan looks safe. nick eardley, for now, _ moment city khan looks safe. nick eardley, for now, thanks very much. let's get some analysis with professor sirjohn curtice, political analyst and professor of politics at strathclyde university. to give you your full title. we just call you the guru most of the time! does numbers, 4.9%, is that what labour was expecting, or well the conservatives be disappointed, given the expectation last night that things could be closer than we are addicted? iiii things could be closer than we are addicted? ., , ., , addicted? if the conservatives were fuellin: addicted? if the conservatives were fuelling their _ addicted? if the conservatives were fuelling their hopes _ addicted? if the conservatives were fuelling their hopes last _ addicted? if the conservatives were fuelling their hopes last night, - fuelling their hopes last night, they must feel rather flat today, frankly you're not quite sure for
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all of this speculation came from. opinion polls, they narrowed somewhat during the london mayoral race, were showing very clearly that i suspect roughly we would be in the place where at least some of the polls were anticipating in advance. a couple of things. the first is that the results of the south—west, it is in the area which was affected by the expansion of ulez and it is true that the swing in the south—west london constituency was lower than the ones we've seen elsewhere, but the point is, it was still a swing to labour, and therefore basically the expectation that labour, that sadiq khan is going to win this mayoralty, but is now pretty much definite and it will be interesting whether labour can win an overall majority on the london assembly. we can also pick up another thing that nickjust showed. i must admit, something i had missed and perhaps we should be pointed out
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to viewers rather more. if we go back to the scoreboard for local councils, there are only two councils, there are only two councils left to declare. number one is the conservatives, it looks as though they are going to avoid losing as many as 500 seats, which was put out before the elections as it were a kind of worst thing that could happen to them. at the moment their losses are standing atjust under 470, their losses are standing atjust under470, it's their losses are standing atjust under 470, its probably going to be just short of the 500, onlyjust short. it is also interesting is that the liberal democrats with 515 seats won, are seven ahead of the conservatives on 508. i was trying to check through the records this morning to see if there was another set of local elections in which the liberal democrats ended up with more seats than the conservatives, and i stand to be corrected but i don't think this has happened before. another little nugget that indicates the way in which those local ballot boxes really were bad news for the conservatives. is boxes really were bad news for the
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conservatives.— conservatives. is that tactical votin: conservatives. is that tactical voting or _ conservatives. is that tactical voting or is — conservatives. is that tactical voting or is it _ conservatives. is that tactical voting or is it literally - conservatives. is that tactical voting or is it literally about | voting or is it literally about local politics and the policies that people want delivered where they live? ., ., ., live? there were two fundamental thin . s live? there were two fundamental things going _ live? there were two fundamental things going on — live? there were two fundamental things going on in _ live? there were two fundamental things going on in the _ live? there were two fundamental things going on in the local- things going on in the local elections which ensured that the conservatives were losing seats, and in part it also helped the liberal democrats. 0ne in part it also helped the liberal democrats. one is indeed tactical voting. labour might vote rose above all in wards where they started off second to the conservatives and the liberal democrats did best of all in wards where they started off second to the conservatives. that was the same pattern as we saw last year, and it is indicative of a mood that suggests that there are a number of voters out there who frankly just want to vote for somebody who they think will get the conservatives out, and they are relatively relaxed about whether or not they are going to vote labour or liberal democrats. the last time we saw these kind of consistently in local elections, you go to the parliament of 1992 to 1997 and we know what happened at the end
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of that. indeed the tactical voting was also very evident in that general election. but the other pattern, and this is a pattern that was again there last year, it was picked up by some of those big mega polls that were trying to predict the outcome of the nest election recently. the conservative vote fell most heavily in the words were they were previously strongest. under our first—past—the—post system, the last thing you want to do is to be losing ground above all in the seats you are trying to defend. that is also an important factor that was in evidence on thursday. just an important factor that was in evidence on thursday.- an important factor that was in evidence on thursday. just to sum up also where we _ evidence on thursday. just to sum up also where we are _ evidence on thursday. just to sum up also where we are overall _ evidence on thursday. just to sum up also where we are overall with - also where we are overall with councils, as you talked about... sorry, just interact, we are getting the result now from enfield. let's listen in. i the result now from enfield. let's listen in. , , . ., . ., ., listen in. i give public notice of a number of _ listen in. i give public notice of a number of votes _ listen in. i give public notice of a number of votes cast _ listen in. i give public notice of a number of votes cast for - listen in. i give public notice of a number of votes cast for each i number of votes cast for each candidate _ number of votes cast for each candidate for the mayor of london contest. _ candidate for the mayor of london contest, making these statements of local totals available in the counting area for enfield and haringey. femy amin, animalwelfare
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party _ haringey. femy amin, animalwelfare party. 2082~ — haringey. femy amin, animalwelfare party. 2082. count binface, 1471. rob blackie, liberal democrats. 7947~ _ rob blackie, liberal democrats. 7947. natalie campbell, independent, 3056 _ 7947. natalie campbell, independent, 3056. howard cox, reform uk, 4969. amy gallacher, social democratic party. _ amy gallacher, social democratic party, 2495. zoe garbett, green party, _ party, 2495. zoe garbett, green party, 11,799. terrain gulati, independent, 1032. —— tarin gulati.
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susan _ independent, 1032. —— tarin gulati. susan hall, — independent, 1032. —— tarin gulati. susan hall, conservative party candidate, 41,389. sadiq khan, labour— candidate, 41,389. sadiq khan, labour party, 82,725. cheering and applause andreas michli, independent, 3000 1963~_ andreas michli, independent, 3000 1963. brian rose, london real party, 579. 1963. brian rose, london real party, 579 nick— 1963. brian rose, london real party, 579. nick scullion, britain first, 1019— 579. nick scullion, britain first, 1019 the — 579. nick scullion, britain first, 1019. the number of ballot papers rejected _ 1019. the number of ballot papers rejected was as follows. for want of an official _ rejected was as follows. for want of an official mark, seven. voting for more _ an official mark, seven. voting for more than — an official mark, seven. voting for more than one candidate, 227.
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writing — more than one candidate, 227. writing or— more than one candidate, 227. writing or marks which the voter could _ writing or marks which the voter could be — writing or marks which the voter could be identified, four. unmarked or void _ could be identified, four. unmarked or void for— could be identified, four. unmarked or void for uncertainty, 608. the total— or void for uncertainty, 608. the total number rejected ballots was 846. total number rejected ballots was 846 the — total number rejected ballots was 846. the total number of papers counted — 846. the total number of papers counted was 165,372. the electorate was 399,607. the turnout was 41.38%. thank— was 399,607. the turnout was 41.38%. thank you. — thank you. studio: well, there is enfield thank you. — studio: well, there is enfield and haringey. nick is looking at what that means for your swing. i haringey. nick is looking at what that means for your swing. i mean, look, it's another— that means for your swing. i mean, look, it's another big _ that means for your swing. i mean, look, it's another big swing - that means for your swing. i mean, look, it's another big swing from i look, it's another big swing from the conservatives to labour and it's basically came over for susan hall now. this is the result. 82,000, sadiq khan. 41,000 susan hall. that's the percentages, that's the change from last time, that the swing. another swing, 4.4% from
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susan hall to labour, and that means pretty much a done deal now, i think, for sadiq khan. he is going to be the london mayor again. mick to be the london mayor again. nick earl , to be the london mayor again. nick early. thank — to be the london mayor again. nick early. thank you — to be the london mayor again. nick early, thank you very much. let me go to professor sirjohn curtice. your view of what's happening in london now?— your view of what's happening in london now? . , ., , london now? that enfield result was crucial. london now? that enfield result was crucial- the — london now? that enfield result was crucial. the swing _ london now? that enfield result was crucial. the swing slightly _ london now? that enfield result was crucial. the swing slightly below- crucial. the swing slightly below the other london constituencies but not by much. in the wake of that, the bbc is also willing to call this election and to say that sadiq khan will indeed be elected as the next mayor of london. our best estimate of the moment, and of course there is a bit of uncertainty about this but we think that esther khan is going to end up with about 45% of the vote and susan hall with around 32%. -- mr the vote and susan hall with around 32%. —— mr khan. i think labour would regard that as roughly correct, are pretty comfortable victory and something that as it were were added to the joy they will have had with the results they've been getting over the last 48 hours or so. . ., .
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been getting over the last 48 hours or so. i ., . ., ~ i. or so. ok, john curtice, thank you very much- _ or so. ok, john curtice, thank you very much- one — or so. ok, john curtice, thank you very much. one of— or so. ok, john curtice, thank you very much. one of the _ or so. ok, john curtice, thank you very much. one of the count i or so. ok, john curtice, thank you l very much. one of the count coming in, greenwich and lewisham and london. �* ., ., ., . london. i'm here to announce the results of — london. i'm here to announce the results of the _ london. i'm here to announce the results of the constituency - london. i'm here to announce the | results of the constituency election for greenwich and lewisham in this london _ for greenwich and lewisham in this london assembly poll 2024. i hereby -ive london assembly poll 2024. i hereby give notice _ london assembly poll 2024. i hereby give notice is constituency returning officer at the election of the constituency member of the land on the _ the constituency member of the land on the subway for greenwich and lewisham — on the subway for greenwich and lewisham held in the 2nd of may 2024. _ lewisham held in the 2nd of may 2024, that the number of votes recorded — 2024, that the number of votes recorded at the election is as follows _ recorded at the election is as follows. labourand recorded at the election is as follows. labour and co—operative party, _ follows. labour and co—operative party, linda bell, 80,101 votes. josh matthews for the liberal democrats, 11,975 votes. mark simpson — democrats, 11,975 votes. mark
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simpson for reform uk, 13,405 votes. correntaio. _ simpson for reform uk, 13,405 votes. correntaio, green party, 28,294 votes. _ correntaio, green party, 28,294 votes. -- _ correntaio, green party, 28,294 votes. —— karen teal. ciaran terry forthe _ votes. —— karen teal. ciaran terry for the conservative party, 24,960 votes _ for the conservative party, 24,960 votes the — for the conservative party, 24,960 votes. the number of ballot papers rejected _ votes. the number of ballot papers rejected is— votes. the number of ballot papers rejected is as follows. we had 1343 rejected _ rejected is as follows. we had 1343 rejected ballots, 158 of those were for voting — rejected ballots, 158 of those were for voting for more than one candidate, three were because of writing _ candidate, three were because of writing or— candidate, three were because of writing or marks by which the voter could _ writing or marks by which the voter could be _ writing or marks by which the voter could be identified, 821juan mark ballots. _ could be identified, 821juan mark ballots, 361 were void for uncertainty. the total number ballots — uncertainty. the total number ballots counted was 161,000 and 78
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out of— ballots counted was 161,000 and 78 out of the _ ballots counted was 161,000 and 78 out of the total electorate of 399,703, meaning the turnout for this was— 399,703, meaning the turnout for this was 40.3%. i therefore declare that len _ this was 40.3%. i therefore declare that len duvall has been elected as a london _ that len duvall has been elected as a london assembly member for greenwich and lewisham. studio: another path of the london picture. john curtice, does not tally with the other results we've seen? ., ., . tally with the other results we've seen? ., .,, ., ., tally with the other results we've seen? ., ., ., ,i seen? that was the london assembly election, seen? that was the london assembly election. we — seen? that was the london assembly election, we certainly _ seen? that was the london assembly election, we certainly saw— seen? that was the london assembly election, we certainly saw a _ seen? that was the london assembly election, we certainly saw a fairly i election, we certainly saw a fairly substantial swing to labour of around 4.5 points, certainly in the mayoral election is pretty similar in this contest as well. i think there is also a broader story here that we should be beginning to tell, which is that although there is a big difference in the mayoral election between inner and outer london, it's not that big. when we go back to the uxbridge by—election, the conservatives surprisingly held that and their success was credited to the way in which they campaigned
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against the expansion of ulez, and it is thought that perhaps that also there was one of the reasons why the prime minister, they reigned back in on some of the, change targets to deal with the installation of boilers etc. i think what we are now seeing is that issue does not have the kind of force that the conservatives anticipated in the wake of the uxbridge by—election. john curtice, great to get your thoughts. let me bring in nick early as well with the other result. just explain the overall picture is we are seeing here and at last won in greenwich aleutian.— greenwich aleutian. that's the result there _ greenwich aleutian. that's the result there that _ greenwich aleutian. that's the result there that we _ greenwich aleutian. that's the result there that we just i greenwich aleutian. that's the result there that we just had i greenwich aleutian. that's the | result there that we just had in from greenwich and lewisham. you wouldn't have expected anything other than a labour hold. it is by a country mile. 50 to labour, the greens are on 18, conservatives and 16. the greens often do quite well in greenwich. that's the change, the
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conservative is down from last time. really interesting swing bear, actually, the most important swing from first to second, green to labour. that's a result we would have expected but i want to show you the big picture when it comes to the mayoral race that we've been covering over the past hour, the one that the bbc is now forecasting a sadiq khan to win, labour are saying confidently that they are going to win. here the numbers, 510,000 votes for sadiq khan so far, susan hall way behind on 274,000. the numbers matter of course, six of the 14 constituencies counted so far. but what matters most of all, what makes us so confident that sadiq khan is going to win is that if susan hall was going to win, she would need a swing from labour of about 2.5%. but look at that, it's the exact opposite. a fairly chunky swing,
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actually, 4.9% conservative to labour, so sadiq khan will be delighted with this result, and he is well on course to stay in city hall. . ., ., , is well on course to stay in city hall. .~' ., , ., ~' is well on course to stay in city hall. ., , ., ,, is well on course to stay in city hall. .~' ., i ., ~' i ., i hall. nick early, thank you very much indeed _ hall. nick early, thank you very much indeed for _ hall. nick early, thank you very much indeed for now. - hall. nick early, thank you very much indeed for now. more i hall. nick early, thank you very i much indeed for now. more results coming in all the time but we are joined now by the labour mp for bethnal green and bow. the bbc is calling london for labour, your reaction to that? well, we are really — labour, your reaction to that? well, we are really delighted _ labour, your reaction to that? well, we are really delighted to _ labour, your reaction to that? .m we are really delighted to hear the results so far, and of course we will wait for the returning officer to announce the result, but we are really pleased with the results so far, what we are seeing is a swing in well over four far, what we are seeing is a swing in well overfour —— far, what we are seeing is a swing in well over four —— well over 4% across a number of constituencies so far, but it looks like that swing is going to be hopefully greater than what he's had in the last election, and that he is set to win a third
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historic election victory, and it's down to the work he's done, the inclusive vision that he has had, and has implemented across london, recognising the strength in our diversity and working for londoners, unlike what the tories have done, he ran a nasty, divisive, vicious extremist campaign were not the country once a labour government here in the city of london, but also across the country, to work for them, to serve them and to rebuild our public services and bring our country together.— our public services and bring our country together. obviously i'm sure the conservatives _ country together. obviously i'm sure the conservatives would _ country together. obviously i'm sure the conservatives would push - country together. obviously i'm sure the conservatives would push back l country together. obviously i'm sure | the conservatives would push back at the conservatives would push back at the description of the campaign. there was last night, you know, sense of uncertainty about the outcome of the mayoral race. obviously we don't know for sure yet, the bbc�*s calling it for sadiq khan, but does that show that labour cannot take voters for granted on issues like gaza or ulez, and those
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can change the public�*s mind on how they vote? can change the public's mind on how the vote? ~ ., �* ., ,, ., they vote? well, we don't take a sinale they vote? well, we don't take a single vote _ they vote? well, we don't take a single vote for _ they vote? well, we don't take a single vote for granted. - they vote? well, we don't take a single vote for granted. we i they vote? well, we don't take a single vote for granted. we are i they vote? well, we don't take a| single vote for granted. we are a change to party, we will continue to work hard to build trust, rebuild trust after the historic defeat we had in the last general election, this is a step in the right direction. we take heart from the progress we've made in the successes we've had across the country, but there are areas where we need to continue to work hard to rebuild trust, to earn people's trust, to win them over so that we can form the next labour government. that requires constant work, that means no complacency, it means building on what we've achieved in these elections and working hard to win back those that we have lost and also making sure that we win that we definitely need to win the fa to form the next labour government. irate
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form the next labour government. we have seen some parts of the country, for example in the north, where it looks as though there are higher muslim populations and there has been less support for labour in traditional labour parts of the country. this is going to be an ongoing problem for your party, isn't it? ~ ., ., i .,, isn't it? well, the labour party has made very — isn't it? well, the labour party has made very clear — isn't it? well, the labour party has made very clear that _ isn't it? well, the labour party has made very clear that we _ isn't it? well, the labour party has made very clear that we want i isn't it? well, the labour party has made very clear that we want to i isn't it? well, the labour party has| made very clear that we want to see a ceasefire, we want to see hostages released, we want to work with the international community to bring an end to the war in gaza, and the whole country is united in wanting to see the suffering and in the brutality and violence end, and to prevent regional escalation. what we have done as a party is to try to work together and make sure that we work together and make sure that we work with the international community to bring an end to this conflict. but we have recognised... was coming up on the doorstep? people feel deeply, deeply distressed, not only in the muslim community but more widely, and we
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have to make sure that the government takes action to do everything it can to bring an end to this war, that's what many of us, both in our party and of course some people in other parties have sought to achieve, but it's very challenging because even with the entire international community couege entire international community college for a ceasefire, the warring parties have not yet agreed to one. we very much hope that happens in the coming days, because we need the suffering to end, we need to work hard to rebuild, and also move to a peace process so that the region is stable, because this conflict has created not only suffering and instability within gaza, but also risks regional escalation. we have to work to do that. it is risks regional escalation. we have to work to do that.— to work to do that. it is labour auoin to to work to do that. it is labour going to be — to work to do that. it is labour going to be forced _ to work to do that. it is labour going to be forced to - to work to do that. it is labour going to be forced to change i to work to do that. it is labour| going to be forced to change its position on the israel gaza question as a result of the fact you are losing councillors, or would that be
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just bowing to public pressure and a way that doesn't keep the party together? way that doesn't keep the party touether? ~ ., ., ~' way that doesn't keep the party touether? ~ ., ., ~ ,., , together? well, look, the point is here that the _ together? well, look, the point is here that the labour _ together? well, look, the point is here that the labour party - together? well, look, the point is here that the labour party has i together? well, look, the point is. here that the labour party has made very clear we want to see a ceasefire, we want to see hostages released, we want an end to this war, and we are doing everything we can to make that argument. the question is, how much is the government doing? we need to make that our argument takes the action necessary to reckon with international partners to bring an end to this conflict. this is not about changing policy. our policy is aligned with what people want. they want to see a ceasefire. they want to see an end to this conflict. they want to see a peace process. they want to see a peace process. they want to see work to ensure that the palestinian statehood is recognised. they want to see the international community card together bring an end to this conflict, but also to bring peace in the region. but it represents a real failure of
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labour if you can't keep those parts of the communities in the north—west on your side. they feel so disaffected, they have left, and they are not voting for you. that is not healthy for democracy if people do not feel represented by major parties in this country? do not feel represented by ma'or parties in this country? absolutely, we have to — parties in this country? absolutely, we have to earn _ parties in this country? absolutely, we have to earn people's _ parties in this country? absolutely, we have to earn people's trust, i parties in this country? absolutely, we have to earn people's trust, we| we have to earn people's trust, we have to work with all communities, including the british muslim community, and we have to work with them to make sure that the concerns that they have not only in relation to gas, but other issues such as islamophobia, anti—muslim hatred, concerns about inequality and discrimination that affects minority ethnic communities, and white working class communities, that those concerns are integral to what labour does. we will reach out and speak to all the interests of the communities in this country, we have to build trust... and that is what
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we will be doing. we will continue to do that, and recognise and listen and learn from, in areas where we have lost support, we will work hard to rebuild trust.— to rebuild trust. isn't he boxed in because of— to rebuild trust. isn't he boxed in because of this _ to rebuild trust. isn't he boxed in because of this huge _ to rebuild trust. isn't he boxed in because of this huge battle i to rebuild trust. isn't he boxed in because of this huge battle on i because of this huge battle on anti—semitism following jeremy corbyn's leadership? i anti-semitism following jeremy corbyn's leadership?— anti-semitism following jeremy corbyn's leadership? i don't accept that proposition. _ corbyn's leadership? i don't accept that proposition. keir— corbyn's leadership? i don't accept that proposition. keir starmer i corbyn's leadership? i don't accept that proposition. keir starmer has| that proposition. keir starmer has taken action to tackle anti—semitism. we are a party that stands for equality, and that means taking action against racism, against islamophobia and anti—muslim hatred, hostilities towards lgbtq communities, so it is not about one of the other, it is about making sure the whole country is brought together. he has an inclusive, positive vision for the future which includes every citizen, every community and every group, not in
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the way that conservatives have operated, which is

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